It appears that the SNP is determined to go beyond the “Haud ma jicket and Ah’ll skelp him…jest haud it, wi ya…” posturing about another Scottish Referendum, and intends to force one on us. This is despite the facts that polls show that more than half of Scots do not want another vote on independence to be held in the next few years; that it is less than four years since the last Scottish Referendum; and that another Referendum would be deeply divisive to our society.
I’ll let you decide for yourself what that says about the SNP.
I described some of the divisions that are created in our society by referendums in a previous post.
So if the majority of people in Scotland don’t want another Referendum, and as we don’t need one, and as we know that another one will create further divisions in Scottish society, why does the SNP want one? They say they want one because more people in Scotland voted to Remain in the EU than voted to Leave the EU in the recent EU Referendum (the Brexit referendum) while the UK as a whole opted for Brexit. The SNP are full of hot air, so they said more than that of course, and I’ll come to some of their other points in a minute, but let’s think about that first point. I, and I reckon tens of thousands of voters, would not have voted to Remain in the EU if I’d known that the SNP would ‘cook the books’ and use this as a reason to force a second Scottish Referendum. In fact, due to the obviously large overlap between No voters and those wanting to Remain in the EU, if all those thinking like me had done the same (had we known then what we know now about what the SNP intend to do), Scotland as a whole may well have voted for Brexit along with the rest of the UK.
I don’t believe that there will be a second EU Referendum (but in today’s world, who knows? And if Scotland has a second Scottish Referendum then surely all the UK should have another EU Referendum) but if there is one, and people in Scotland, like me, next time vote for Leave (even though we are Remainers at heart) because we don’t want to enable the SNP to twist the results, and at the same time some people also change their vote in other parts of the UK, then the result might show a majority for Leave in Scotland, and a majority for Remain in the rest of the UK. In other words, the complete opposite of what happened last time. This only goes to show some more problems with Referendums.
The SNP say that they want a further Scottish Referendum because of the result of the last EU referendum. I believe that they really want a second Scottish Referendum because they think that the US presidential elections have shown that you can get people to vote for an incoherent narcissistic nutter like Donald Trump, so you can possibly get them to vote for anything, even a probable train wreck like an independent Scotland outside of the rest of the UK, and begging (or possibly not even trying) to get back into the EU. It is a sobering thought, and I’ll let you decide for yourself what that says about the SNP.
Since the last Scottish Referendum, less than four years ago, the SNP have been busy. Back in October I read that the SNP had sent people over to the USA to study the social media strategies of the Trump campaign.
There are certainly many similarities between the campaigns of the secessionists and Trump’s. Above is a photo featured in The Telegraph, of SNP supporters trying to get rid of a journalist that they disagree with, and accusing the BBC of being biased. It mirrors similar activity that I’ve seen from the Trump camp.
Elsewhere, I read: Alex Salmond demands BBC control to ‘correct anti-SNP bias’. The former First Minister says control over BBC Scotland should be devolved so the SNP-dominated Scottish Parliament can “resolve” issues with the balance of its political coverage.
This is frightening stuff. Watching Trump describe the media as the enemy of the people is also frightening stuff.
Elsewhere, I read: Alex Salmond criticises UK media bias on Russian TV. Frightening stuff, with further similarities to Trump.
They may not like each other (any more), but they use similar methods.
The SNP accuse people who provide facts that they don’t like as being scaremongers. Trump also dismisses his critics out of hand, and his team provide ‘alternative facts’ to things he doesn’t agree with.
But let me get back to the various points made by the SNP. The SNP complain about ‘control from Westminster’. So what are they suggesting instead? Control from unelected bureaucrats even further away from Scotland in Brussels?
Of course, the EU is not entirely controlled by unelected bureaucrats. There is also The European Parliament. So, the SNP would do away with representation by 59 MPs in the House of Commons out of a total of 650 MPs from all of the UK, and instead be represented only by 6 MEPs in the European Parliament out of 751 Members (one of whom is currently a UKIP member). It doesn’t make any sense at all.
It very much looks as if several more countries in the EU will see a further move to the far right in politics. We could possibly see a President Marine Le Pen in France. That National Front leader is anti-EU. She has pledged to take France out of the eurozone and unless the EU agrees to revert to a loose coalition of nations with neither a single currency nor a border-free area, to hold a referendum on France’s EU membership. We could eventually see an EU without either the rest of the UK or France. Thierry Baudet, leader of the anti-establishment Forum for Democracy in the Netherlands, wants his country to leave the EU. Geert Wilders may win the forthcoming election in the Netherlands. He has pledged to close the Netherlands’ borders, shut down mosques and leave the euro and EU if he gets into power. We could eventually see a Scotland in an EU without the rest of the UK, France or the Netherlands. In Denmark, the right-wing Borgerlige party is pushing for an EU membership referendum. In Poland the ruling Law and Justice party is right-wing, and has found itself at odds with the EU. Viktor Orban is the right-wing nationalist leader of Hungary (and a Trump enthusiast). Read about him here. Here is an article in the Independent entitled: Europe’s new fascism? The far-right leaders hoping to take power in 2017, with details of more, growing right-wing movements in Europe.
These are the sorts of people and ruling parties that Scotland would have to work with, if the SNP forced Scotland out of the UK and then tried to join the EU, or what is left of the EU when more countries leave. Do you think they will act in Scotland’s interests? Do you think that a small independent country like Scotland would have much sway at all in whatever is left of the EU? These may be ‘ifs’ but they are very real possibilities.
I’m a reasonable person, so at this point I will imagine how the SNP would react to the above. They would likely say – well the Conservative Party at Westminster is also right-wing. However: Theresa May has pledged to give workers a place on company boards and for the annual shareholder vote on executive pay to become binding, not advisory; she has insisted that the state has a significant role to play in alleviating the everyday injustices faced by people who do not qualify for benefits; she will see in a major shift in housing policy by placing greater emphasis on renters with plans to deliver more affordable rental properties; she stands for the ‘Sharing Society’; the minimum wage for 25-year-olds will rise 4% from £7.20 to £7.50 an hour in April; and so on. This sounds like a far cry from some of the extreme right-wing policies of the other European leaders mentioned above.
I know that some people would like Scotland to be an independent country, separate from the rest of the UK and also outside the EU. They probably number less than those who want to remain in the EU. As Nicola Sturgeon has said another independence referendum is “highly likely” after a majority of Scots voted to stay in the EU while the UK as a whole opted for Brexit, then logically a Scotland outside the EU cannot be an option. You can’t call for a referendum specifically because you claim that the majority of the country want to remain in the EU, and then campaign for a Scotland outside the EU, surely? That would be a complete rock-hard-Scexit (or whatever is the correct term) outside of both the UK and the EU and would double any Brexit pain. Hmm – however today I have just read that the SNP is preparing to drop EU membership as part of its independence case. Apart from anything else, that surely means that there is therefore no reason to call for a referendum because of the fact that the majority of the country want to remain in the EU. Are you confused by the SNP? I am.
Economically, the SNP position makes no sense at all. I read the other day a newspaper headline: “Independent Scotland ‘the new Greece’ : Economist warns of £19bn cuts after ‘yes’ vote“.
Is a further reason why the SNP want to force another Scottish Referendum on us shortly because, what with the SNP having been in power in Scotland for very nearly ten years, (Ten Years!), all their hot air about how deemed ills in Scotland are supposed to be the fault of Westminster are rapidly becoming more and more implausible? Should they not simply stop putting all their effort into forcing another Scottish Referendum on us, stop all of the whinging, and instead get on with governing Scotland and actually doing things within their very considerable powers to improve Scotland?
I’ve seen statements where the SNP say that anyone who disagrees with them is just being negative. Well, almost anything would be better than an independent Scotland with £multi-billion deficits, ruled by a government that likes to control the press, dominated within the EU by far-right nutters (or alternately double-Scexit burdens). I really can’t help it if that sounds negative with respect to what the SNP would force on us. But I may write a post specifying many of the benefits of Scotland staying within the UK, at a later date.
There is only one sensible answer to every question I have posed, above. As far as I’m concerned, it is very obvious that there is also only one sensible answer to the question about Scotland’s future political situation. It is the opposite of what the SNP propose.
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